It's a great day for George Floyd

Are they afraid to point it out or are they just like him? There is something seriously wrong with this thought process.

Trump was reporting the economic gain, true. But if you review what Trump actually said, he was referencing civil rights gains when he mention Floyd.

But, regardless, why would Mr Floyd not be happy for Americans to prosper? I would think less of him if he wanted Americans to suffer.

"Black Lives Matter" is a group I cannot support, as a Christian I cannot. From the reading I've done, I think this group is lacking in a very profound way and unlikely to be a movement that results in anything good or lasting.

Christianity speaks of "remorse", "repentance", and through faith the chance for "redemption". And unless there is the potential for redemption, nothing good can be achieved.

BLM makes no mention of redemption. Frankly, what is there really to support?

You don't feel that George Floyd might still be getting over feeling aggrieved at his life being cut short by government employees, and see Trump as being representative of everything going wrong for usa?

Pris, people all over the world are looking at trump and regarding him as a disgrace.

Can you really not see why?

 

I honestly had to hear his speech twice before I really believed he had said those things.

FOX was the "news" station that covered the Russia hoax in a somewhat investigative manner. Most all others promoted the lie Trump was a Russian secret agent.

I support Trump because I vote for results. Until the virus, the USA had the greatest economy in history and the lowest unemployment for all races. And a job is the pathway to personal independence.

Is my support really all that hard to understand?

So what about de-funding the police? Consider; "Black Lives Matter" is convinced Police are corrupt beyond repair bent on murder of black men. White people are by their very nature irredeemably racist white supremacists. Will any statistic or even common sense argument prevail, any debate opportunity here? I doubt it, certainly not in Minneapolis, LA, Chicago or NY, ironically cities totally controlled by the Democrat Party.

If we go down the same old pointless "let's have a dialogue, a conversation about racism", what's really likely to improve? And if you simply cut police budgets what you gain is likely to be fewer cops, and those remaining becoming less proactive and more reactive.

So I suggest let's try a totally new model, one that appears to be working for the elite class...de-fund the police!

Without police, it is likely criminal activity may flourish. So let's adopt the law enforcement model used in elite neighborhoods, privatize.

Poor neighborhoods may not be able to finance the "hired guns" used in gated neighborhoods. But poor neighborhoods may have plenty of "good" neighborhood citizens willing to volunteer to become self-empowered lawmen. Many citizens may want with good reason to arm themselves, perhaps acting as deputies to assist during a crisis and available to "share the law enforcement workload". Certainly training could be provided from the savings gained from de-funding the police. And certainly the poor would have more confidence in their own neighbors than they will with the current corrupt police.

There is even historical precedent for such privatization. London is an example. Private use of citizens was common in the city until the metropolitan police was organized.

Now that we have reached the point of near total dispute of basic beliefs, privatization of law enforcement may make sense. We cannot trust the police so trust yourselves to do better. Time to take responsibility and de-fund the police.

The elites use "hired guns" to maintain their gated neighborhoods. Let's privatize the poor neighborhoods too.

Pris, what is your opinion on his remarks about George Floyd? You are saying why you support Trump, but do you ever disagree with anything he says? Would you say these same things or would you feel wrong to say such a thing? I feel most would think it were inappropriate in just about every professional setting, so I'm not sure why being the President means you should be held to lower standards.



As for the rest....

Quote about the magic wand:

Obama, June 1, 2016: Now, the good news is that there are entire new industries that are starting to pop up and you’re actually seeing some manufacturers coming back to the United States because they’re starting to realize, “You know what? Energy prices are lower here, workers are better here, this is our biggest market. And so even though we off-shored and went someplace else before, now it turns out we’re better off going ahead and manufacturing here.”

But for those folks who have lost their job right now because a plant went down to Mexico, that isn’t going to make you feel better. And so what we have to do is to make sure that folks are trained for the jobs that are coming in now because some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back, and when somebody says, like the person you just mentioned who I’m not going to advertise for, that he’s going to bring all these jobs back, well how exactly are you going to do that? What are you going to do?

There’s — there’s no answer to it. He just says, “Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.” Well, how — what — how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually, the answer is he doesn’t have an answer.



So, overall this doesn't mean jobs cannot be saved and none can come back, but it is true not all jobs can be brought back. Some jobs do not exist anymore. Technological advancements kills jobs in manufacturing, and that isn't going to stop. We should try to move forward instead of trying to resurrect jobs that are no longer needed. If they are still needed, then they will not be lost, but they will always go where it costs less if we don't have any incentives to keep business here.

And you know what... Trump and his daughter's products have been made in other countries (not sure if they switched some in recent years to be less hypocritical). They have no problem using China themselves instead of bringing those jobs to the US. Why is that?



This was the only "new normal" quote I could find so far:

“What is a danger is that we stay stuck in a new normal where unemployment rates stay high. People who have jobs see their incomes go up. Businesses make big profits, but they’ve learned to do more with less. And so they don’t hire. And, as a consequence, we keep on seeing growth that is just too slow to bring back the eight million jobs that were lost. That is a danger. So, that’s something that I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about.”

He didn't say it was the new normal, but it was something he worried about. Is there another quote? Otherwise, I only find some economists suggesting a new normal but not Obama himself.



A lot of things get taken out of context. People will take the out-of-context information and tell us how we should feel about it, but usually what was said when in context was more benign. Although, sometimes things are taken out of context to make people look better, too.

Michael Walsh's "Guide to Left Speech"

White supremacy = Western civilization
Fundamental change = Total destruction
Legitimate grievances = Complete bullshit
Have a conversation about... = Agree with us or die
"Rights" = Things not in the Constitution we want

How about...

Talking truth to power = stereotyping

Maybe not...

First, nobody here has ever called me a white supremacist. If my posts gave the impression that I felt maligned, by the good people here, I don't, never. My recent posts are directed at the bankrupt "Black Lives Matter" group.

Interesting to note; even if city police departments were to cease to exist, some law enforcement would still be present. The "High Sheriff" in each county has ultimate power. If a sheriff were to organize his deputies to patrol a city within his county, the city officials could not stop them, I doubt the Governor could. Of course there are fewer Sheriff deputies so order would be harder to maintain.

Winston Churchill spoke of Indian people as beastly people with a beastly religion and said he hated them

To understand people in the context of their time is one thing to glorify them by erecting a statue of them is quite another.
30 years ago it was considered fair play to wolf whistle or pinch a girls bum. The me too movement has vilified men for this crime even though it was normal at the time it was done.. if we cannot see that in context of the time why should we see a slave trader or racist in any other context?