Different Subject: Prison

Now I have actually met a couple of killers.. They were far from crazy. One had killed a man when they got into a fight about a bike, too much booze and male ego and a fatal punch..
Another was a biker ok a bit of a steryotype but he wasnt a bad man, he killed the physically abusive husband of a friend again no madness just a burning desire for justice which she wasnt getting.

A very nice young man I know and would still trust to be in my home was put in prison for attempted murder. His sister was dating a guy for about 5 years , she got pregant and when she told her BF he went ballistic insisted he have an abortion and when she said no he said 'then Ill do it for you' and kicked her in the stomach.. Richard went after he and broke his leg but because he did it in the street and shouted Im going to kill you for what you did... the judge saw it as attemtped murder.

I had two brothers who worked in the prison service and the only people they really couldnt stomach were child sex offenders.
In 27 years my brother never met a really bad person and he worked in top security prison in London..


All Im saying is dont be too judgemental. Yes there are some really nasty people around but there are a lot of misguided ones and a lot of really nice ones too.

I don't agree with murder I am a pacifist.
However I also fail to see why a man who kills an abusive husband or beats up and abusive boyfriend will get put in prison yet a man who wears a uniform an who kills in the name of the government, a person that he has no personal argument with can be called a hero but we do that with soldiers all the time are they not simply trained killers , paid Killers.

A killer who stabs an abusive partner or a cheating spouse in the heat of the moment how are they worse than the government who sends people to war your for bragging rights, for greed?

To be honest there are an awful lot of people walking the streets who are far more dangerous and far more ruthless than heat of the moment killers..

Those who set out to deceive and ruin lives for nothing more than their own ego.

I watch a 60-min show about prison in Germany. Send the American prisoners there, they will never want to come back here.

I actually love seeing women kicking butt in movies and video games lol but I never would want to be like that.

I am glad I started this thread. It is a dark subject but there are so many trains of thought and opinions. It is all really interesting to read.

I definitely think it was a subject worth posting about on here and am glad there have been so many reponses.

I think people need to feel they will get support if they need it. They need to feel they have a place in society without it seeming like charity. Another, very tricky, point I will raise is that for some offences there is lifetime stigma. Do we permanently lock these people up? It is a no-win situation.

I watched a programme last night and the prisoner - who'd been convicted of murder - was beaten up by his inmates and left with a severe and lifelong head injury. I won't say whether he deserved it or not, though: I am not judge and jury of anyone. I have a neutral viewpoint. BUT because of his head injury he was released from prison and given lifelong care for his injuries.

It goes to show how dangerous prison is. It isn't a free hotel.

The worst part is when someone is executed only to find out they were innocent.

Or have to be in prison for 50 years for something they did not commit.

France celebrates 40 years since banning the death penalty and hope to convince the rest of the world to follow.

I know it can be barbaric but honestly, the world is going to hell in a handbasket we are running short of resourses heat food and medical care for honest people. When we catch the Myra Hindleys, the Dennis Nielsons, the Marc Dutroux's , the John Waybe Gacy and the Ted Bundys of the world we know we cant ever let them back out into society, would not a quick painless death be better for them and us?

Note Im not talking blanket death sentances but only in those of 100% sure guilt and those of the most horrific crimes. The psychopaths among us.

I am not fussy on the death penalty, but I would find it acceptable if it was the choice of the criminal. 

It is such a difficult area.

Do we lock up rapists for life? If so, they might be wiser killing the only witness?

Recently I read of a man getting 6 years for grievous assault. Fair enough, ostensibly, but the woman he assaulted was blinded by the ammonia he assaulted her with.

6 years sounds short to me.... On the plus side, he was recently found dead in his cell, and that was all the information that was given out.