Any man who doesn't let any toxic behaviors encouraged through childhood define their perspective on what makes a man. Society dictates that boys get taught from a young age that they have to own things (including women) and that their duty is to be a provider as well as give everything to the women in their lives. This only breeds a toxic mentality that festers misogynistic outlooks and can lead to relationship problems as well as domestic abuse. A lot of men tend to have fragile egos that if they let something that traditionally is associated with women into their routines or their life they are somehow less of a man. That even something such as listening to their sisters or girlfriends could get them called things like 'pussy-wiped' or 'gay.' Causing to lack understanding of personal boundaries and personal feelings.
I would say men are rare in this world as many men still feel like they're boys trying to gain an understanding of themselves. So any man who has the confidence to admit what they like without fear of scrutiny and stills firm in their interests in such scrutiny is among the most desirable man for which to engage in a romantic relationship with. Though that has to remain within reason. Though such a desirable man would have the ability to examine such interests or passion on how it affects the people in their lives and be willing to adjust or remove any unnecessary activities that may bring self-harm or harm to others. A gentleman seems like such an outdated term that itself stems from toxic mindset, but I do believe there exists modern day gentlemen that have made that realization for me.
If I were to list what I would want in a man partner... they'd be...
The ability to recognize personal boundaries and personal emotions of not just for the people in their lives but also themselves.
Is always open to direct communication with an understanding of body language.
The confidence to admit they are not ashamed of engaging in any interests, routine, or past time traditionally associated with the opposite sex.
Willingness to provide a strong support system and nurturing a secure environment for their partners and themselves.
The ability to examine toxic behaviors and amend them.
Personally responsible to freely engage in kink with the knowledge of safety precautions (such as aftercare) while also willing to examine anything which may jeopardize the safety of themselves or their partners.
Those are some of my qualities I look for when it comes to a potential relationship. Which oddly enough is really the first time I ever deeply examined this and laid them out in such a list.
Matthew 25:40, NRSV said:
And the king will answer them, 'Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.
Quality of man.. as in males or mankind (humans)? ;p
Top qualities would be.. intelligence, kindness, honesty, and loyalty.
Yes, but to add a sense of humour too.
True. I need someone to appreciate my sarcasm and wit lol no dull guy who doesn't get any of my jokes. My SO finds me hilarious, so I am good on that front.
Depends on if they are trying to convert me or constantly telling me I need to do this or that for their religion. Long-term, it does seem to work out better if you have similar religious views, though. Less chance of any issues one day unless you both are okay with having the differences and would rather not discuss them too much, as it doesn't bother either person enough to ruin the relationship.
Im glad im not dating and im especially glad im not male. What a minefield they are on. Too masculine and they are toxic and misogynist too soft and they are weak ..
Society tells them one thing , media tells them another, women yet another and who can they go to for advice? Well not dad because hes bound to be wrong.
We women as mothers have a part go play in this and a responsibility if we as women are going to demand that men be less toxic ( a term I hate btw) then we need to face up to the fact that as primary caregiver we are responsible for delivering the correct information and emotional education to our sons in their formative years.
Im glad im not dating and im especially glad im not male. What a minefield they are on. Too masculine and they are toxic and misogynist too soft and they are weak ..
Society tells them one thing , media tells them another, women yet another and who can they go to for advice? Well not dad because hes bound to be wrong.
We women as mothers have a part go play in this and a responsibility if we as women are going to demand that men be less toxic ( a term I hate btw) then we need to face up to the fact that as primary caregiver we are responsible for delivering the correct information and emotional education to our sons in their formative years.
You have got it. I have often listened to people going on about 'the young'. THey seem to forget that they are their parents. If the generation below us are failing, it's our teaching and training that has made them so...
I'm afraid I could not marry a Muslim or someone of another religion. He is either Christian or an atheist. I also steer clear of men who are members of cults.
This is what I believe in and what the Bible teaches
Ephesians 5:25 MEV Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for it,
that is what I am supposed to be like, supposed to do, for my wife, because Christ gave Himself for me, so I ought to gave myself to my wife.
THAT is what all men should do for their wives REGARDLESS of what they believe in, IF they can, even try,
not mad, just putting emphasis on what I think I need.
notice how I didn't quote the verse that says otherwise, and men who do are misunderstanding a huge point of love, self-sacrifice, etc. They need to go back to read their Bibles.
If my wife quote that scripture to me, I would obey it, not because those words came form her mouth, but because my God, has given the command to love God with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength, and love my neighbor as myself, and even love my enemies, so I have "no right" to hold "any grudges" against my wife, and I must listen to her. It's funny, now I remember my mental health doctor telling me that "you need to listen to your wife"
I know there are times when I am to gently, and kindly, explain my point of view, but the issue with me is one of "submission", I submit to my Lord Jesus first, an in effect, I will obey His command, believe that is right, then do what my wife is saying "not for show" but "actually believe it's the right thing to go" THAT, is what I'm aiming at.
It might sound like I am losing power, or whatever (to men? to women?) but that is how I interpret the scriptures.
I'm not a good man for doing this, I don't think I am. I'm doing as it's right for me to offer back to God my all, to including loving my wife.
Im glad im not dating and im especially glad im not male. What a minefield they are on. Too masculine and they are toxic and misogynist too soft and they are weak ..
Society tells them one thing , media tells them another, women yet another and who can they go to for advice? Well not dad because hes bound to be wrong.
We women as mothers have a part go play in this and a responsibility if we as women are going to demand that men be less toxic ( a term I hate btw) then we need to face up to the fact that as primary caregiver we are responsible for delivering the correct information and emotional education to our sons in their formative years.
yes, right, my mom has rightfully taught me this.
1. things my dad did that she hated (yell, etc) I hated that too.
2. things she did that she hated (committed) adultery (I hated that too).
I both now, angry, and committed adultery, but ...I not anymore........
the truth needs to come out lest we hide in darkness, and never admit who we really are and what we did. I dont' fear you that is why I"m telling you straight up.
they will be beat and bully. If not now, then God will get them. Yes, they will pay. I don't think for a bit serial killers, and especially Hitler, got away with anything.. nope, they are suffering now.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Feb 17, 2023 1:03:04 GMT -5
Hello Dominic.
I have heard so many tales of violent husbands. They use their timid wife's nature as an excuse to beat them up and constantly critizise. It drives me mental. Intimate Partner Violence is very common. In fact, perpertrators of domestic violence have been known to have psychopathic and/or narcissistic tendencies. They basically have no care or regard for others. And their wives they're beating up don't realize this. They blame themselves: they walk on eggshells: they try to change: they clean the house better. But none of that works. Their "partner" doesn't love them. Their partner just wants power and control and an ego-boost.
What saddens me is these women live in misery with no awareness of why. Because it must be their fault. They can't see or understand what a psychopath or narcissist is. They don't see it in their partner.
If anyone reading this is a victim of domestic violence, heed these words and get out of the relationship NOW. You're not to blame for your partner being evil and manipulative.
containing or being poisonous material especially when capable of causing death or serious debilitation toxic waste a toxic radioactive gas an insecticide highly toxic to birds
exhibiting symptoms of infection or toxicosis the patient became toxic two days later
: extremely harsh, malicious, or harmful toxic sarcasm
: relating to or being an asset that has lost so much value that it cannot be sold on the market
by toxic's definition of "extremely harsh, malicious, or harmful" I think many things are "toxic"
I can be toxic to work, family, friends, I hate it, and hate myself for it.
This is the opposite
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 MEV Love suffers long and is kind; love envies not; love flaunts not itself and is not puffed up, [5] does not behave itself improperly, seeks not its own, is not easily provoked, thinks no evil; [6] rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; [7] bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things.
so I try to teach myself from the Bible to see my old, to kill it, and put on a new
this is how I should be
suffers long
kind
envies not
flaunts not itself
not puffed up
not behaving improperly
seeking not it's own
not easily provoked
thinks no evil
rejoices not in inquity (evil/sin/etc)
rejoices in the truth
bears all things
believes all things
hopes all things
endures all things
I don't know anyone who can do that 24/7 but I know we are all trying.
even others who do not believe in the God of the Bible, I think they are trying too.
I have heard so many tales of violent husbands. They use their timid wife's nature as an excuse to beat them up and constantly critizise. It drives me mental. Intimate Partner Violence is very common. In fact, perpertrators of domestic violence have been known to have psychopathic and/or narcissistic tendencies. They basically have no care or regard for others. And their wives they're beating up don't realize this. They blame themselves: they walk on eggshells: they try to change: they clean the house better. But none of that works. Their "partner" doesn't love them. Their partner just wants power and control and an ego-boost.
What saddens me is these women live in misery with no awareness of why. Because it must be their fault. They can't see or understand what a psychopath or narcissist is. They don't see it in their partner.
If anyone reading this is a victim of domestic violence, heed these words and get out of the relationship NOW. You're not to blame for your partner being evil and manipulative.
100% agree with you.
I think men who beat their wives, and get convicted are the ones who get raped in prison, but that is not enough of the mental trauma they did for their wives. I agree with you. Stupid men. Idiots. I dont' wanna be like them. I never hit, never touched my wife, never, but my voice raising is another thing.
I can't stand men who beat their wives. I wish someone beat them, to teach them to stop it. They need to stop and seek help and apologize and sincerely make amends, if that is even possible, I don't think so, by then, he is set on his way to hell. He chose that life, it was totally NOT her fault. Doesn't matter if he didn't get enough sex, food, etc, it was NOT EVER EVER her fault. She has to know her worth, her very important value. I feel so bad for these dear precious women.
I hate my anger too. I am almost as bad as these guys I'm slamming right now. There really is an evil that has to be conquered.
Popcorn&Candy, I think you are too and all the women boldly sharing these thoughts and opinions here. Thank you
I am really stupid and sad, I know what you mean though, I appreciate your kind words.
I take it that 'if my wife is happy today, I must be doing something right'
if she is upset with me, I have to dig and find in me, what I am doing/thinking/saying/facial expression that is making her say what she is saying, Usually, it's always my quick-temperness,
Yesterday, the cat escaped, and I had to find him. I almost exploded but I kept telling myself "this is not anyone fault" and "don't get mad, dominic". I so wanted to control my anger, my own quick-temperedness "pisses" me off because I'm just so mad. You can't tell, I'm not mad now, but anyway, I'm venting. sorry,back to topic.
Well, if a man beats women it's not a man and we need some other word to describe it
No.. they are still men.
They are men with problems , men who dont fit society , men who need re-education, men who may have been set bad examples or been traumatised themselves.
Im not saying they should be given a free pass, what they are doing is criminal but its more complexed than just finger pointing and name calling.
Again as mothers we need to set the example to both our sons and daughters. My sons have been taught respect by me and their dad, we set the example , we showed there were ways to solve things without violence.
We gave all our children the confidence to be themselves and to express themselves without violence.
When a BF raised his hand to my daughter ( he didnt strike her) she gathered her belongings and walked out telling him it was over. He didnt understand and said 'but I didnt hit you' She said no but the intention was there and thats enough.
She had the confidence and the strength to walk away to know she deserved better.
That was what we gave her...
My son is seperated from his wife ( she cheated on him) he remains civil and friendly he has paid for her driving lessons and two cars ( she blew one up) he does repairs at her house always supports her when she has appointments or difficulties because he says as the mother of his children and as a person he loves she still deserves his respect and help.
We gave him that ability to be a compassionate man.
We as parents , aunts , uncles and grandparents shape the way our children grow, if we do not set the example and we do not give them the strength to be confident and compassionate then they cannot be 100% to blame when it goes wrong.
Well, if a man beats women it's not a man and we need some other word to describe it
No.. they are still men.
They are men with problems , men who dont fit society , men who need re-education, men who may have been set bad examples or been traumatised themselves.
So after re-education I will call them men. But not a second earlier
they all need to read "how Jesus" loved others, even enemies, and do that, not outwardly, but inside,
or they (us) are just like animals and foolish and harmful and malicious and lying fakes
I'm not mad now, just I write "mad" like, as you can probably tell. I seriously don't know how else to put it, I "guess" the "political" way is
"we all got issues" but that is hiding the point of a man beating a women, issues? dont' mean, you beat someone. If you beat, you will be beated, plain and simple, if not his wife back, then other men in prisonn will beat you, that is for sure. and also rape you.
How do I know?
My 1/2 brother, beat his wife, then went to prison, when he went to prison, they find out, and guess what, now he was someone rape toy.
Now, he is crazy in the head, has the mind of a child, talks randomly of drugs and masturbation, he is not all there now.
that is a true real life story. My 1/2 bro was an idiot,
he is divorced, but his old wife, the one he beat, still loves him and cares for him, in some way I hear. It's truly unbelievable to me, but that is what my family tells me.
I miss him, my 1/2 bro. I hope he is changed now.
my two cents, I don't care if you have hateful comments, I would like to hear your opinions, if it's allowed, here, I know I spark debates but that is just me. I'm crazy you know.
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