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a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,018	Would you like to have a gun? Jan 23, 2024 7:41:47 GMT -5 TestDummyCO likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Jan 23, 2024 7:41:47 GMT -5 I may have mentioned that I am anti guns? www.bradyunited.org/key-statistics
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Post by cassie on Jan 23, 2024 8:32:36 GMT -5

Jan 23, 2024 8:21:48 GMT -5 chamomile said:

@a_muppet those stats are truly shocking

Indeed, think of the horror of the twin towers and how much reaction that caused, now think... 10 times that amount are killed every year with guns and nothing has been done about it.

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Jan 23, 2024 8:32:36 GMT -5 cassie said:

Jan 23, 2024 8:21:48 GMT -5 chamomile said:

@a_muppet those stats are truly shocking

Indeed, think of the horror of the twin towers and how much reaction that caused, now think... 10 times that amount are killed every year with guns and nothing has been done about it.

Shame on the US govt.

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a_muppet Global Moderator Posts: 35,018	Would you like to have a gun? Jan 23, 2024 9:49:06 GMT -5 kjay and TestDummyCO like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by a_muppet on Jan 23, 2024 9:49:06 GMT -5 Jan 23, 2024 8:21:48 GMT -5 chamomile said: @a_muppet those stats are truly shocking Disgraceful is the adjective I was thinking of.....
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Post by jen on Jan 24, 2024 3:10:04 GMT -5

It would be an interesting comparison to compare the statistics with similar deaths etc for people living in police states such as Russia or China. Maybe it is safer to live in a none democratic country? I suspect not but the margins may be a lot closer than we realise.

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Post by cassie on Jan 24, 2024 5:52:37 GMT -5

Jan 24, 2024 3:10:04 GMT -5 jen said:

It would be an interesting comparison to compare the statistics with similar deaths etc for people living in police states such as Russia or China. Maybe it is safer to live in a none democratic country? I suspect not but the margins may be a lot closer than we realise.

I think it would be interesting if we could get true crime figures and that's the problem, both Russia and China tend to be a bit closed lipped about these kinds of things.

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Jan 24, 2024 5:52:37 GMT -5 cassie said:

Jan 24, 2024 3:10:04 GMT -5 jen said:

It would be an interesting comparison to compare the statistics with similar deaths etc for people living in police states such as Russia or China. Maybe it is safer to live in a none democratic country? I suspect not but the margins may be a lot closer than we realise.

I think it would be interesting if we could get true crime figures and that's the problem, both Russia and China tend to be a bit closed lipped about these kinds of things.

Would western media report them correctly anyway? We all know of media bias and government directives

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Post by a_muppet on Jan 25, 2024 4:03:14 GMT -5

Jan 25, 2024 2:56:57 GMT -5 jen said:

Jan 24, 2024 5:52:37 GMT -5 cassie said:

I think it would be interesting if we could get true crime figures and that's the problem, both Russia and China tend to be a bit closed lipped about these kinds of things.

Would western media report them correctly anyway? We all know of media bias and government directives

I can barely watch anything on the news, without thinking "So what is the truth?"

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Post by cassie on Jan 25, 2024 5:38:59 GMT -5

Jan 25, 2024 4:03:14 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

Jan 25, 2024 2:56:57 GMT -5 jen said:

Would western media report them correctly anyway? We all know of media bias and government directives

I can barely watch anything on the news, without thinking "So what is the truth?"

Its interesting speaking more than one language, you see the same incident reported in sometimes very different ways depending on the country doing the reporting. .

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Post by a_muppet on Jan 25, 2024 16:56:40 GMT -5

Jan 25, 2024 5:38:59 GMT -5 cassie said:

Jan 25, 2024 4:03:14 GMT -5 a_muppet said:

I can barely watch anything on the news, without thinking "So what is the truth?"

Its interesting speaking more than one language, you see the same incident reported in sometimes very different ways depending on the country doing the reporting. .

We used t have a news prog every Friday called "The Friday alternative." It used to do that, but then it was dropped by the station. Apparently, it was not done professionally enough.

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Post by jen on Jan 26, 2024 4:08:24 GMT -5

Looking back myself, I have to chuckle a little though about our local evening paper - The Lincolnshire Echo. I don't remember any real issues with sensationalising things as the media does now but they were very well know for getting their facts wrong. It was a standing joke with people I knew. In general though it was a far more informative read than any current publication.