My answer is No. I've done some target practice in the past with a rifle, but I stink at that with my eyesight and so I don't need to own. Also, there's enough stuff in my family's history that I'm not a fan of most people owning guns.
Wish we had the same laws here as the Netherlands!
A gun is a bit of a liability. My father hated guns and would not want one in the house. He always had the fear of it being used on him. That is something which does happen.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Apr 10, 2023 2:31:53 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I'd be arrested for murder if I used one: even it were self defense. The law here in Britain takes a very dim view on gun usage. Unfortunately that does mean there is more knife crime. But knives are messy and guns are much easier to kill people with. I don't particularly enjoy thinking about those things but feel they are true. You can kill many people from a distance with a gun, but you'd only be able to kill one person with a knife.
I don't like either weapon and don't agree with knife-crime.
If you say self-defense, you won't be permitted a license. Using a gun to deter non-armed intruders is also a violation of the law and will get you in trouble in court. However, If the intruder is armed with a gun, you are allowed to fire back.
You are allowed to fire back, but you are not permitted a gun for self-defence. It sounds a bit strange.
Having been in the Military i had accesses to armory bren guns and 22,s and more had i needed to, was not really my thing and i was not really interested in them.
The stuff i have is in the Archery side as i am an archer and when i need to be good i can at our camps i can take a guy out at 300 yards and i have compeated with other,s i know are much better than i am those who we target are well dressed in armory and well covered .
i use a 35 lb bow i do have lots and some are 70 lb = thats the pulling strain i do have steel bows recurve and straight wooden so i do have all the gear i need ,
i,m a right hand pull, well i was and had to change sides and changed and redid the bow,s i use as many are for those who are right hand pull.so i do carry weapons when i need to other wise they stay at home , Knives , yes another story, i do carry a pretty good arsenal mainly for cooking some 30 odd as when i have other,s working for myself in the large kitchens i need a good supply for my crew plus all the other gear to feed and more 130 people full on sit down meal,s .
Oh yes here in NZ is a lot better as i have worked with our Police on assigment, i have made sure we are covered concerning weapons so and let our guy,s know i do carry weapons when needed,
We dont in the main have much issues with guns as most are good just a few should not have any at all. so thats us,
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Last Edit: Apr 10, 2023 3:28:46 GMT -5 by noeleena
If you say self-defense, you won't be permitted a license. Using a gun to deter non-armed intruders is also a violation of the law and will get you in trouble in court. However, If the intruder is armed with a gun, you are allowed to fire back.
You are allowed to fire back, but you are not permitted a gun for self-defence. It sounds a bit strange.
Basically I tried to find a link in English and this idiot was the only one I could find. He likes guns BTW..
the idea is that people dont have guns here. A few farmers or licensed hunters are the exception apart from military or law officers. The exception you quote is aimed at those people they are allowed a gun so if attacked by an armed person they can fire back without too much risk of being arressted for murder.
Some criminals manage to sneak them in but its not normal or an everyday thing. Nor is knife crime although sadly it is becoming more frequent. Typically among young persons of non Dutch backgrounds.
Yet our prison sentencing is very mild compared to other countrys and our re-offend rate is also low. Prison here is seen as a place to rehabilitate not punish. Violent crime is low and on average the murder rate in a country of 17, million is around 125 people per year.
I do own a handgun, revolver, but it's kept in the house safely in a safe. I grew up with them because my dad is a hunter and he taught me how to use them when I was young. I have also taken gun safety courses in the past. I don't desire to carry it even though it is allowed to be carried concealed here in Florida and now without a permit. I do believe though that the laws need to be tightened up severely and some types need to be banned. It's been so long since I have even looked at mine I might as well not even own it.
I do own a handgun, revolver, but it's kept in the house safely in a safe. I grew up with them because my dad is a hunter and he taught me how to use them when I was young. I have also taken gun safety courses in the past. I don't desire to carry it even though it is allowed to be carried concealed here in Florida and now without a permit. I do believe though that the laws need to be tightened up severely and some types need to be banned. It's been so long since I have even looked at mine I might as well not even own it.
You are allowed to fire back, but you are not permitted a gun for self-defence. It sounds a bit strange.
The exception you quote is aimed at those people they are allowed a gun so if attacked by an armed person they can fire back without too much risk of being arressted for murder.
So it sounds like some may defend themselves against an attack of an armed person and some may not.
The exception you quote is aimed at those people they are allowed a gun so if attacked by an armed person they can fire back without too much risk of being arressted for murder.
So it sounds like some may defend themselves against an attack of an armed person and some may not.
The chance of being attacked by anyone with a gun in this country is virtually nihl.
Please dont try to make it sound as if there is a division of power ,there isnt. This country is so safe our queen takes her children to the shops the king rides a bicycle and the prime minster goes to work on a bike. No body armour and only the royals have armed guards.
London is notorious for knife-crime. Gangs carry knives. The crime rate in London is very high: although the tourist industry doesn't want you to know that. If you're a tourist in London you're fairly safe. But you have to stick to the tourist areas. Some areas of London are no places for a tourist: as my poem of the same name says.
NC just passed a law that allows anyone to buy guns without permit or training...just like buying candies. TN lawmakers expelled three reps just because they were trying to make their case IA just revoke the women's right to get abortion even when they get pregnant because of rape and incest ID just come up with "abortion trafficking" law if anyone is helping another person to leave the state for abortion. FL is banning masks, vaccines .....
NC just passed a law that allows anyone to buy guns without permit or training...just like buying candies. TN lawmakers expelled three reps just because they were trying to make their case IA just revoke the women's right to get abortion even when they get pregnant because of rape and incest ID just come up with "abortion trafficking" law if anyone is helping another person to leave the state for abortion. FL is banning masks, vaccines .....
This is what the GOPs have been busy doing
I guess, the time has come when we have to replenish the supply faster than the republican gun nuts can kill them.
Last Edit: Apr 10, 2023 21:40:03 GMT -5 by TestDummyCO
NC just passed a law that allows anyone to buy guns without permit or training...just like buying candies. TN lawmakers expelled three reps just because they were trying to make their case IA just revoke the women's right to get abortion even when they get pregnant because of rape and incest ID just come up with "abortion trafficking" law if anyone is helping another person to leave the state for abortion. FL is banning masks, vaccines .....
London is notorious for knife-crime. Gangs carry knives. The crime rate in London is very high: although the tourist industry doesn't want you to know that. If you're a tourist in London you're fairly safe. But you have to stick to the tourist areas. Some areas of London are no places for a tourist: as my poem of the same name says.
I know from the news. The west midlands around Liverpool is really bad too. I do wonder a bit with the media though. It makes me think because, when I was working in the community, I used to be going out in all parts of a city visiting patients, alone. That was in the east midlands though which has a lower crime rate, but was in the larger cities such as Leicester and Nottingham. It makes me think because there are lots of people who do similar jobs, even in the really bad areas, who seem to get by. Being streetwise is useful. I think it can help far more than any gun, as, unless you are Quick Draw McGraw you would be down before you got anywhere near drawing it.
ps: I had to add Quick Draw McGraw as I was reminded of an old cartoon which amused me as a child:
unless you are Quick Draw McGraw you would be down before you got anywhere near drawing it.
Withdrawing a gun, loading the gun, aiming the gun and shooting the gun isn't as easy as it sounds. The lightening quick gun reactions on TV shows doesn't show the training and skill of the gun carriers. Plus, looking someone in the eye as you point the gun at them and fire is not easy, either. In fact, when Donald Trump suggested teachers carry guns in schools that was the point I raised. Guns take skill and physical strength. There is the recoil after the shot, too: this could cause the gun to misfire, injuring the wrong person.
Guns are complex and it does take training to use one.
Personally, I dislike guns. We have the police here, and there is practically no reason to ever go around on the streets with a gun in your pocket unless you are a cop or part of a SWAT team.
As for gun laws, I would say that the Netherlands gun laws are great.
Personally, I dislike guns. We have the police here, and there is practically no reason to ever go around on the streets with a gun in your pocket unless you are a cop or part of a SWAT team.
As for gun laws, I would say that the Netherlands gun laws are great.
It's completely different here. Everyone knows about the US and its love affair with guns and here in Florida I am sure I pass by very many people that are carrying concealed handguns everyday.
It's completely different here. Everyone knows about the US and its love affair with guns and here in Florida I am sure I pass by very many people that are carrying concealed handguns everyday.
And if they use that handgun they are done for murder.
I KNOW you're not into guns though, kjay! I just wanted to make a point and don't mean to take your post out of context.
It's completely different here. Everyone knows about the US and its love affair with guns and here in Florida I am sure I pass by very many people that are carrying concealed handguns everyday.
And if they use that handgun they are done for murder.
I KNOW you're not into guns though, kjay! I just wanted to make a point and don't mean to take your post out of context.
Not necessarily. We have a law here called "Stand your Ground". If a gun is used and it was determined it was for self defense there will be no charges filed.
Honestly I think the worst guns are those which can fire off multiple rounds, as they are the trickiest to stop, quickest and most dangerous. There is practically no escape from them honestly.
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