I definitely think life exists elsewhere.. in whatever form or no matter how small. I can see the extraterrestrial theories being the case for our existence as well. Even if life does not exist yet, maybe it will happen eventually if all the right ingredients meet somewhere ;p
I know that we generally assume life can only exist according to basically our experiences on Earth and what we have seen so far, but over time we tend to discover life existing in extremes we didn't think were possible before, and I do think anything is possible.
I definitely think life exists elsewhere.. in whatever form or no matter how small. I can see the extraterrestrial theories being the case for our existence as well. Even if life does not exist yet, maybe it will happen eventually if all the right ingredients meet somewhere ;p
I know that we generally assume life can only exist according to basically our experiences on Earth and what we have seen so far, but over time we tend to discover life existing in extremes we didn't think were possible before, and I do think anything is possible.
We only know of carbon based life but what if..............
Post by Popcorn&Candy on May 10, 2021 3:03:34 GMT -5
If there IS life beyond our planet, it will take 1000's of years before we discover that other planet: let alone travel to it. We'll never find out in this lifetime: or even the next.
But we know WE have life and we must protect our planet by looking after the environment. We can't build another earth on Mars if this planet is wrecked. Whether or not life on other planets exist, we exist.
If there IS life beyond our planet, it will take 1000's of years before we discover that other planet: let alone travel to it. We'll never find out in this lifetime: or even the next.
But we know WE have life and we must protect our planet by looking after the environment. We can't build another earth on Mars if this planet is wrecked. Whether or not life on other planets exist, we exist.
It is funny how that works out... we don't even appreciate the planet or life living here, but some people are ready to move to Mars to start anew. That won't work any better for humans if we don't learn how to live consciously with other living beings and care for the planet.
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$28 for a tourist flight into space. Sorry but at a time when we are all being rapped on the knuckles for using a car or a plastic beaker I find this totally irresponsible. Take off requires a staggering amount of fuel I think it was something like 6,000 litres which given the average fuel consumption of a car that equals 6 years worth of fuel just on take off... For a tourist gimmick?
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Jun 13, 2021 7:08:08 GMT -5
I won't be going into space either, kjay.
I'm not scared of airplanes but I am a little tense. Going into space would multiply that feeling by a thousand. Plus - as mentioned - it takes a LOT of fuel for a rocket to go into space. Plus, there is training people and testing people to see if they can cope with space travel. They most certainly would have to be prepared and trained for such a "mission". You don't just put any average Joe and Jane on the next rocket. I realize you don't do this with airplanes, but space is hostile. And if a person suffers claustrophobia, they're not going to be able to cope with sitting in a metal can in space. Plus, they could have medical conditions, putting their lives at risk in space. There would have to be requirments, too:
1. The person must never have smoked 2. They must not suffer claustrophobia 3. They mustn't have a heart condition 4. They mustn't have asthma 5. They mustn't be seriously overweight 6. They must not fear heights 7. They must not fear airplanes and flying
... the list goes on.
All that means the costs of putting people into space will go up to billions of dollars. NASA do have the money BUT they have to be sure all the protocals are in place and every passenger is confident with sitting in a metal can, going straight up into the sky and through earth's atmosphere, losing their gravity and relying on oxygen tanks. You can't just step off the rocket for some fresh air.
I am sure it will happen, but there is a lot of work to do between here and there.
I personally don't like to fly but I do all the time. It's funny, I get uncomfortable about flying before the flight but once i get on the plane I am okay.
Post by Popcorn&Candy on Jun 14, 2021 5:31:51 GMT -5
I've been on airplanes millions of times, kjay. Like you, I'm fine once on the plane.
There's no danger of the plane falling: its design is much, much safer than years ago in the beginnings of aviation. Planes are safer and much faster these days.
Please don't worry about flying: you're perfectly safe. The pilot knows his/her job.
$28 for a tourist flight into space. Sorry but at a time when we are all being rapped on the knuckles for using a car or a plastic beaker I find this totally irresponsible. Take off requires a staggering amount of fuel I think it was something like 6,000 litres which given the average fuel consumption of a car that equals 6 years worth of fuel just on take off... For a tourist gimmick?
I really think there are two agendas going on in the world and big business plus people wanting their names in lights are not helping things at all. There is really no reason at present why we need to be going into space so I think the best approach would be to limit flights until the provider can show that they have, and will do, more good than harm to the environment.
Another thing to consider is what does a trip into space mean? The picture I link here was apparently taken at 90,000 feet, pretty much on the boundary of space: i.ytimg.com/vi/CR87T4far5s/maxresdefault.jpg . The thing here is that it is not impractical for a specifically designed aircraft to get that high although it would have to be specially developed. How much higher would a spaceflight be? (bearing in mind they would want to limit costs on a budget flight).
Just to address some of Popcorn&Candy's points, I don't think there is much more to worry about other than the issues of weightless as compared to many current airline flights. The main point about the current methods are that they accelerate a capsule into orbit very quickly so being fit is important to withstand the stresses. I have a link here (for the technical) which shows some of the issues: space.stackexchange.com/questions/7829/launch-accelerations-values-history#7857 . As can be seen, there has been progress on making things more comfortable for astronauts and further limiting issues would get things to fairly normal levels. It's perhaps just that the flight may well be a bit of an anticlimax though? As for height, I don't think the fear of that is much more than at present. I found a reference that indicated that Concorde regularly flew at 60,000 feet with few issues thumbpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Concorde-cruising-above-the-earth-at-60000-feet.jpg. Until people looked out into an almost unreal scene they probably wouldn't realise. I think the difference here, at least after the first tentative trials, is that current practice has few people in a can rather than the more likely re-designed airliner which would be more practical for tourism.
I hope I am not getting too technical here (but the research is perhaps my calling lol). I have found some definitions of space which put my previous post to one side, undershooting a little, but they do have merit. At least they put figures to things: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_line .
I will still watch with interest as to how they cut costs with flights though. For those of a non technical disposition please ignore lol
It is truly amazing what they find out there. A star the size of our moon. The universe is truly a wonderful and mysterious place.
This is true: the universe IS a strange and amazing place. There is so much we don't understand about the universe: and perhaps never will. But we live in it and appreciate the mystery of outer space, solar systems, galaxies and our planet, too.
There is also dark matter and dark energy, which scientists don't yet fully understand. Perhaps one day they will be able to explain those forces. I certainly can't myself! But I do know that dark matter and dark energy are the reason the universe bonds itself together. But that is all I know. Again, this universe has forces beyond our control. But scientists are getting there: and their knowledge will increase technology and space travel.
A fascinating subject.
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